Castle Doctrine Dropping: Need Your Action!

[DKA]

Send e Mails over and over again, until the bill get gets a fair hearing, and remind Ms Ross that you are a concerned Voter and NC Citizen. I have sent an email everyday this week and will continue until it gets heard.

[calamityjane]

This is what Deborah Ross has scheduled for this week's meeting of the Jud. I Committee:
(just so you know what is more important than the Castle Doctrine)


NORTH CAROLINA HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES
COMMITTEE MEETING NOTICE
AND
BILL SPONSOR NOTIFICATION
2009-2010 SESSION


You are hereby notified that the Committee on Judiciary I will meet as follows:

DAY & DATE: Thursday, July 9, 2009
TIME: 10:00 am
LOCATION: 1228 LB
COMMENTS:

The following bills will be considered:

BILL NO.SHORT TITLESPONSOR
HB 1275 Establish Civil Custody Guardian Program.
Representative Insko
SB 56 District Court District 13 Residency.Senator Soles, Jr.

SB 513 Notice of Hearing/Unsupervised Probation.
Senator Clodfelter
SB 1078 Delay Bond/Probationer Arrested For Felony.Senator Snow

[lockmup68]

I kept getting the 'thank you for your email, Deborah' emails, so I replied back as thus:
> I appreciate the reply, however you did not address my questions below.
> Please notify me of your actions on this matter and how and when it will
> be resolved. I have received a few 'thank you for you email' replies,
> yet there has been no action on your part. Please respond.
>
> Thanks and have a great day,
> Shannon
> A concerned NC voter and Wake County resident

And she actually responded, or it was her admin Margie Penven at Rossla@ncleg.net vs. the Deborah.Ross@ncleg.net address. I started cc'ing both addys.

Rep. Deborah K. Ross wrote:
> Shannon.
>
> It has not yet been scheduled. It passed crossover and will still be
> eligible for a hearing next year. It will probably take at least two
> meetings to complete a hearing, and we have other non-controversial
> bills ahead of it. We usually take up 3 or 4 bills per 45-minute
> meeting.
>
> Please note the gun registration bill has been through our committee
> twice this year and was ratified last week. It was not controversial,
> and we were able to handle it quickly.
>
> I hope this answers your questions.
>
> Deborah

To which I replied:

Thanks for the reply. Not sure what is controversial about this bill as it passed the Senate 42-2 in favor. Seems if it was controversial, there would be a much larger ney vote than 2. This is a protection bill for the citizens. Please schedule a hearing as soon as possible and do not delay.

Thank you for your service,
Shannon


Rep. Deborah K. Ross wrote:
> Shannon.
>
> It has not yet been scheduled. It passed crossover and will still be
> eligible for a hearing next year. It will probably take at least two
> meetings to complete a hearing, and we have other non-controversial
> bills ahead of it. We usually take up 3 or 4 bills per 45-minute
> meeting.
>
> Please note the gun registration bill has been through our committee
> twice this year and was ratified last week. It was not controversial,
> and we were able to handle it quickly.
>
> I hope this answers your questions.
>
> Deborah
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Shannon
> Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2009 02:54 PM
> To: Rep. Deborah K. Ross; Margie Penven (Rep. Ross)
> Subject: Re: Please immediately schedule hearing for the Castle Doctrine
> Bill in Judiciary Committee
>
> I appreciate the reply, however you did not address my questions below.
> Please notify me of your actions on this matter and how and when it will
> be resolved. I have received a few 'thank you for you email' replies,
> yet there has been no action on your part. Please respond.
>
> Thanks and have a great day,
> Shannon
> A concerned NC voter and Wake County resident
>
>
> Rep. Deborah K. Ross wrote:
>
>> Thank you for your email, Shannon.
>>
>> Deborah
>>
>>
>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>> --
>> *From:* Shannon
>> *Sent:* Friday, June 26, 2009 03:24 PM
>> *To:* Rep. Deborah K. Ross
>> *Cc:* Rep. Joe Hackney (Speaker); Rep. William Wainwright; Rep. Hugh
>> Holliman
>> *Subject:* Please immediately schedule hearing for the Castle Doctrine
>>
>
>
>> Bill in Judiciary Committee
>>
>> Representative Deborah Ross
>> NC House of Representatives
>> 16 W. Jones Street, Room 2223
>> Raleigh, NC 27601-1096
>> Deborah.Ross@ncleg.net
>>
>> Dear Rep. Ross,
>>
>> As a citizen of NC and Wake County, I am very concerned that I am not
>> currently receiving due representation for the Castle Doctrine Bill.
>> The Castle Doctrine Bill passed the Senate 42 to 2 on May 14th. You,
>> Madam Representative, seem to be trying to kill this bill in the
>> Judiciary Committee by not even scheduling a hearing on the bill. In
>> so doing, you are denying my constitutional right to representation on
>>
>
>
>> this matter. You seem to be allowing your personal views on the 2nd
>> amendment to the US Constitution, as well as Sec. 30 of the NC
>> Constitution, to prevent the people's elected representatives (of
>> which you are my elected representative) do what they were elected to
>> do--represent their constituents. This bill is very important for
>> protecting homeowners. It clarifies the current home defense laws and
>> protects homeowners from malicious prosecution in civil court. Please
>> schedule this hearing immediately.This constituent wants the Castle
>> Doctrine Bill heard and passed as it was in the Senate on May 14th.
>>
>> I am asking that you schedule a hearing immediately. If you do not
>> schedule a hearing, I have asked the Speaker to move this bill to a
>> committee that will do what they were elected to do and not impede the
>>
>
>
>> rights of citizens, as guarranteed in the Constitution of the United
>> States and the Constitution of NC. Otherwise myself and the other
>> homeowners who live and vote in this great State and county will not
>> receive our due representation.
>>
>> Please notify me of your actions on this matter and how and when it
>> will be resolved.
>>
>> Thank you for your time and service to the great state of North
>>
> Carolina.
>
>> Sincerely,
>>
>> cc: Honorable Speaker Hackney, Honorable Speaker Pro Tempore
>> Wainwright, Honorable Majority Leader Holliman
>>
>>
>
>

[lockmup68]

and what gun registration bill? Is she talking about the CCH renewal bill?

[GoldFox]

I'd rather just meet Deborah Loss in person, that'll REALLY get a point across.

[calamityjane]

For those of you in Wake county, can you enlighten me? Did she win by a huge margin? I am curious as to why she is so completely unconcerned about listening to her contituents. Does she not have anyone running against her?

[calamityjane]

This is what Deborah Ross has scheduled for this week's meeting of the Jud. I Committee (today):
(just so you know what is more important than the Castle Doctrine... again)

NORTH CAROLINA HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES COMMITTEE MEETING NOTICE
AND BILL SPONSOR NOTIFICATION 2009-2010 SESSION


You are hereby notified that the Committee on Judiciary I will meet as follows:

DAY & DATE: Tuesday, July 14, 2009
TIME: 10:00 am
LOCATION: 1228 LB
COMMENTS:


The following bills will be considered:

BILL NO. SHORT TITLE
HB 137 Capital Procedure/Severe Mental Disability.

Sponsors:
Representative Insko
Representative Harrison
Representative Womble
Representative Luebke

BILL NO. SHORT TITLE
SB 44 Appeals of Quasi-Judicial Land-Use Decisions.

Sponsor:
Senator Kinnaird

BILL NO. SHORT TITLE
SB 698 City/County/Sanitary District Fees/Internet.

Sponsor:
Senator Boseman


Respectfully,
Representative Ross, Chair

[Ray]

Ross is a lapdog for the North Carolinians Against Gun Violence.

At least the bill is FAR from dead.

As Rep Ross pointed out she can bring it up next year. I think she will have to if she does not this year.

[Marine1]

Ray,

What in the world has Rep. Ross done that would indicate that she will move this bill forward in her life time, let alone ‘next year’?

Can does not mean will, as you stated she is a lapdog for the North Carolinians Against Gun Violence. She can move the bill forward this year, yet she won’t.

Not dead? There were eight 2A bills that never made it out of committee this year;. The Castle Doctrine, Restaurant Carry, and Carry in Parks are the big ones. They passed the CCW Renewal bill, which really doesn’t earn us any more Rights, it was just a timing issue in my eye’s. Rep Ross is already shaking that in our face, as if it’s a major 2A support on her part (see post above). The Castle Doctrine and Restaurant Carry bills were MUCH more beneficial to the ability of the NC residents to defend themselves. NC is way behind many other States on these two issues in particular. These are common, intuitive Constitutional Rights given to many other US residents.

We will have the same people in office next year. What are we going to do different next year? If we wait until next year and start sending letters, email, and phone calls we will be setting here next July again.

I think Ms Ross would love us to think ‘ah, well, maybe next year,’ just like some have year after year after year on the Restaurant Carry bill.

[Shotgun]

I am really getting frustrated with this! I have e-mailed her as others above have and received the "thank you for your email, standard bull letters. I have contacted the NRA about this, but it seems they are to busy NOT doing anything of substance to try and block Sotomayor's being appointed! For those of you in wake county, maybe you can contact WRAL and show them the continued bs emails you are getting from Ross. Maybe you can write letters to the editor of Raleigh papers and explain what is going on! I agree with commentor who stated if she has done nothing this year, what makes you think she will do so next year! It is simple stall tactics. Sometime you just have to step out there and do what is right! Lets put the pressure on her in the news media!!! Please advise what you have done and what response you get from WRAL and Newspapers so we can put additional pressure on them! Its time to put up or shut up!!!!!

[chiefjason]

This bill made it through the Senate, readings, committees, and all in 51 days. It's been sitting in Ross's committee for 53 days as of today. Think I'll remind her of that!

Dear Rep. Ross,

If you sincerely appreciate my email I repectfully ask that you schedule the Castle Doctrine to be heard in your committee. This bill made it through the Senate in 51 days from filing to passing it's 3rd reading. On the contrary it has sat in your committee now for 53 days from passing it's first House reading and being reffered to your committee. This is according to North Carolina General Assemble website. This is a bill that I am concerened about and I am recieving no representation if this bill sits unscheduled in your committee. Schedule this bill to be heard as soon as possible so that it can make it's way throught the House and the people of NC can recieve their due representation. Thank you.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Thank you for your email, Jason.



Deborah
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Dear Rep. Ross,

As the Chairperson of Judiciary Committee I, I am asking that you schedule the Castle Doctrine bill to be heard in your committee as soon as possible. This is a very important piece of legislation for homowners in NC. Currently the law is not as clear as it should be and still leaves homeowners open to civil lawsuits. That is why we need to get the Castle Doctrine bill heard. I find it appalling that a criminal who breaks into a home seems to have more rights than the victim of his crime. I don't want to see homeowners victimized twice. Once by a criminal and again in a civil lawsuit. Thank you for your time.

Sincerely,

[calamityjane]

This is what Deborah Ross has scheduled for this week's meeting of the Jud. I Committee: (just so you know what is more important than the Castle Doctrine... again)

NORTH CAROLINA HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES COMMITTEE MEETING NOTICE AND BILL SPONSOR NOTIFICATION 2009-2010 SESSION

You are hereby notified that the Committee on Judiciary I will meet as follows:

DAY & DATE: Thursday, July 16, 2009
TIME: 10:00 am
LOCATION: 1228 LB
COMMENTS:

The following bills will be considered:

BILL NO. SHORT TITLE
SB 464 Prevent Racial Profiling.

Sponsor:
Senator McKissick

BILL NO. SHORT TITLE
SB 513 Notice of Hearing/Unsupervised Probation

Sponsor:
Senator Clodfelter

BILL NO. SHORT TITLE
SB 595 Advanced Directives on Drivers License.

Sponsor:
Senator Goodall

BILL NO. SHORT TITLE
SB 1078 Delay Bond/Probationer Arrested For Felony.

Sponsor:
Senator Snow

Respectfully,
Representative Ross, Chair

[Ray]

Sent her another email and I have called her office

[calamityjane]

I spoke to Ms Ross' office today. She has no intention at this point of scheduling a Castle Doctrine Bill hearing.

Her reasoning was that she has a year to do it (it has passed the crossover deadline) and that it is too 'controversial' and will take up too much time. She feels she can schedule bills that will pass or fail quickly and 'get more done'. In other words, bills of no consequence.

That's her 'story'.

I also spoke with the NRA-ILA and they are currently lobbying to get the Castle Doctrine moved to a different committee for hearing.

I am not very hopeful this bill will be heard this year, after my calls today.

[calamityjane]

This is what Deborah Ross has scheduled for next week's Tuesday meeting of the Jud. I Committee: (just so you know what is more important than the Castle Doctrine... again)

NORTH CAROLINA HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES COMMITTEE MEETING NOTICE AND BILL SPONSOR NOTIFICATION 2009-2010 SESSION

You are hereby notified that the Committee on Judiciary I will meet as follows:

DAY & DATE: Tuesday, July 21, 2009
TIME: 10:00 am
LOCATION: 1228 LB
COMMENTS:

The following bills will be considered:

BILL NO. SHORT TITLE
SB 802 Immunity for Nonprofit Health Ref. Service.

Sponsor:
Senator Rand

BILL NO. SHORT TITLE
SB 882 Statute of Repose/Products Liability.

Sponsor:
Senator Hartsell

BILL NO. SHORT TITLE
SB 974 Consumer Economic Protection Act of 2009.

Sponsor:
Senator Rand



Respectfully,
Representative Ross, Chair

[Ray]

Then she will be forced to schedule it next year during the Short Session

[Marine1]

Please explain what will force Rep Ross to put this on the agenda next year, Ray. We will have the same people in the same places with the same ‘agenda’s’.

Our letter’s, emails, and phone calls have not worked, thus far. We’ll try our Tuesday morning calls.

But ultimately, the only way I can think that we can get this bill heard next year is to start putting pressure on her re-election. That must come from the citizens of Wake County. I have contacted the Wake County Republican Party Chairman, Claude Pope. He would like to get together with anyone in Wake County that would like to see things change regarding the legislature there.

He feels that we can work together to get Rep. Ross and others out (Sutton dropped 4 other important pro-gun bills this year) so we get our agenda moving forward.

Claude Pope’s contact information is:

Email
Website

[calamityjane]

This is what Deborah Ross has scheduled for this week's meeting of the Jud. I Committee: (just so you know what is more important than the Castle Doctrine... again)


NORTH CAROLINA HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES COMMITTEE MEETING NOTICE AND BILL SPONSOR NOTIFICATION 2009-2010 SESSION


You are hereby notified that the Committee on Judiciary I will meet as follows:


DAY & DATE: Thursday, July 23, 2009
TIME: 10:00 am
LOCATION: 1228 LB
COMMENTS:

The following bills will be considered:

BILL NO. SHORT TITLE
SB 802 Immunity for Nonprofit Health Ref. Service.

SPONSOR:
Senator Rand


SB 974 Consumer Economic Protection Act of 2009.

SPONSOR:
Senator Rand


SB 1062 Strengthen Dom. Vio. Protective Orders/Pets.

SPONSOR:
Senator Boseman


Respectfully,
Representative Ross, Chair

[calamityjane]

This is what Deborah Ross has scheduled for this week's meeting of the Jud. I Committee: (just so you know what is more important than the Castle Doctrine... again)

I would like to point out the mega-important special bill that requires the committee's attention first this week in particular, as it is truly unreal.


NORTH CAROLINA HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES
COMMITTEE MEETING NOTICE AND BILL SPONSOR NOTIFICATION
2009-2010 SESSION

You are hereby notified that the Committee on Judiciary I will meet as follows:

DAY & DATE: Tuesday, July 28, 2009
TIME: 10:00 am
LOCATION: 1228 LB
COMMENTS:

The following bills will be considered:

BILL NO. SHORT TITLE

HB 327 Right to Publicity.

SPONSORS:
Representative Goodwin
Representative Owens, Jr.
Representative Barnhart
Representative Howard


SB 974 Consumer Economic Protection Act of 2009.

SPONSORS:
Senator Rand


Respectfully,
Representative Ross, Chair

[calamityjane]

This is what Deborah Ross has scheduled for this week's meeting of the Jud. I Committee: (just so you know what is more important than the Castle Doctrine... again)

I would like to point out ANOTHER mega-important special bill that requires the committee's attention before the Castle Bill this week in particular, as it is truly unreal.

NORTH CAROLINA HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES COMMITTEE MEETING NOTICEAND BILL SPONSOR NOTIFICATION 2009-2010 SESSION

You are hereby notified that the Committee on Judiciary I will meet as follows:

DAY & DATE: Thursday, July 30, 2009
TIME: 10:00 am
LOCATION: 1228 LB
COMMENTS:

The following bills will be considered:


BILL NO. SHORT TITLE

SB 252 Strengthen Local Emergency Management.

Sponsor:
Senator Snow

SB 859 Tort Claims Act/Local Gov. Opt-in.

Sponsor:
Senator Clodfelter

SB 955 Bicycle Lights at Night.

Sponsor:
Senator Nesbitt, Jr.

SB 958 Disciplinary Proceedings/NC Medical Board.

Sponsor:
Senator Nesbitt, Jr.

Respectfully,
Representative Ross, Chair

[GoldFox]

like I've said before, we've just got to meet up and see if we can talk to her in person, we need to show her we aint playin' no more games with her, and we're getting sick and tired of her BS. I'm a stubborn SOB, I can out stubbornize ANY politician.

[Ray]

Someone in Raleigh/Durham should

[Marine1]

I would be glad to meet with Ms Ross. I contacted her office, I am not in her district (Wake County), so she does not have time for me. I can't vote for or against her and am therefore not relevant to her. I went the the Wake County Republican Party and they time for anyone that would like to help get her out of office.

If someone from Wake County will get an appointment with her, I will be there.

[NC Dave]

Originally Posted by Marine1

I would be glad to meet with Ms Ross. I contacted her office, I am not in her district (Wake County), so she does not have time for me. I can't vote for or against her and am therefore not relevant to her. I went the the Wake County Republican Party and they time for anyone that would like to help get her out of office.

If someone from Wake County will get an appointment with her, I will be there.

To clarify - Ross is not the representative for Wake County. She is a representative for part of Wake County, specifically District 38. Wake County has House Districts 33, 34, 35, 36, 37, 38, 39, 40, and 41. The majority of us in Wake County are not her constituency and cannot vote her out of office or use the "you are my Representative" card.

[toddje]

Originally Posted by NC Dave

To clarify - Ross is not the representative for Wake County. She is a representative for part of Wake County, specifically District 38. Wake County has House Districts 33, 34, 35, 36, 37, 38, 39, 40, and 41. The majority of us in Wake County are not her constituency and cannot vote her out of office or use the "you are my Representative" card.

+1 to that. My rep is Paul Stam, who is part of the solution, not the problem. This lady has been in the house 4 years, and is just a total left winger.